"Look at Europe today- every one of its governments is formed by the grandchildren of Hitler's allies".
Ukraine's current government is a curious mix of Nazis and Jewish oligarchs and their front-men. This is quite obvious. "Nazism" is simply brute aggression, it's a political tool. NeoCons are happy to use any tool, including Nazism, to further their goals.
You said that WWII was about protecting Imperialism from Communism. And you asserted that Communism won (e.g. Russia). OK, why then did the West fight Germany, since Germany was fighting Communism? Why was the the West helping Russia and not Germany?
You also said:
"All this stuff about the Jews, which has been current for decades, is de-contextualised nonsense- the Jews didn't even have the minimal political influence they needed to gain refuge from cruel and public persecution in Canada or the United States."
No political influence? What? The major industrialists of mid-century U.S. were routinely decrying the influence of Jewish banks, of control of the U.S. press, of great "infiltration" of the upper reaches of national political policy-making.
Here's the story of Anglo and Jewish-controlled banking here in the U.S. It's from Wikipedia - hardly an "anti-semitic" bastion:
That article chronicles the control of a great deal of U.S. industry and raw materials. "no political influence?". For real? And the timeline of this economic control of the U.S. predates the 2nd WW by several decades.
And you go on to say that the current U.S. President is a Klan president, who is a "deep South of ideas". Are you conflating the presidency and Trump's administration with the retrograde perspectives of some of Trump's followers? When the views of Trump's followers depart from the views of Trump's owners (Zionists), which camp prevails?
How goes that Epstein list? Published yet?
Please tell me of a president, any one will do, that is/has been more favorable to Zionism? One that is even more a product of Jewish influence?
Whatever Israel wants, it gets. U.S. foreign policy is largely based on "what's good for Israel", and it's been like that for decades. When Netanyahu comes to address the Congress, we get 54 standing ovations, and 535 (minus 2 or 3) barking seals.
No Jewish influence, of course.
Your post seems to be a deflection and a denial of massive, systematic, and continuous Jewish influence in economic and political affairs, not just here in the U.S. but UK and Europe as well.
Yes, it is helpful to point out the effect of British influence on U.S. foreign policy during WWII.
But to suggest that there wasn't, and most particularly isn't near-complete Jewish control of U.S. foreign and domestic industrial policy is ... puzzling.
Why do you keep minimizing that fact? I see this theme recur in your posts often.
And -- after all we have learned about choreographed lies and fabrications about heroic and professional Oct. 7 military breakout out of Gaza concentration camp — why is Hamas still described as “terrorist” ???
Hamas behaved professionally and well-disciplined in conducting a successful breakthrough military attack out of decades long open concentration camp.
Panicked and cowardly Israeli army, however, murdered its own citizens while as usual launching a coordinated fabrications about “beheaded babies and rapes” – ALL disproven by now.
Hamas party was democratically elected and represents wishes of Palestinian people.
You've done an immense amount of work cobbling all this together for which you are owed gratitude. But you are, on the whole wrong.
History in this case was not written by the victors, who were the USSR and, lest we forget, an anti-fascist popular alliance which reached deeped into the British, not to mention the various European populations. Remember Field Marshal Slim's answer to Churchill's enquiry as to how the vote, with its long delayed count, of the armed forces had gone? "...none of my chaps voted for you."
No the history of the war was written, in the end, and your article proves it, by the same forces who ruled the imperialist countries before the war, collaborated with or desperately tried to appease Hitler in the war and have united the westeen alliance, once again, into an anti-communist/anti-Russian alliance.
The Second World War was all about the ruling classes' reaction against the Russian Revolution. It was about preserving the empires from anti-imperialist movements, inspired by the Soviet Union (remember China?) and preserving metropolitan capitalism from the threat of socialism.
All this stuff about the Jews, which has been current for decades, is de-contextualised nonsense- the Jews didn't even have the minimal political influence they needed to gain refuge from cruel and public pesecution in Canada or the United States.
Look at Europe today- every one of its governments is formed by the grandchildren of Hitler's allies. The EU bears a remarkable resemblance to the Europe of 1941, rushing its 'volunteers' to participate in Barbarossa, pouring its support into Ukraine, ruled by a fascist movement presrved in aspic for seventy plus years by Hitler's real successor the imperial United States.
As to China, the challenge that it presents to the United States is very much like that the Soviet Union presented to Europe's hegemonic empires- 'communism' not as some social experiment but as a vibrant, efficient alternative to capitalism, an inspiration to imperialism's victims everywhere and, like the Red Army in its day, more than capable of defending itself against the whole world.
Like Walt, I was born in the war in Britain the one and saving anomaly among the imperialist nations in that, for a variety of reasons one of which, the strength of Trade Unionism, Walt, from South Wales will understand, it refused to submit to Hitler's (and Halifax's and Chamberlain's) blandishments and make peace with fascism. It united in an anti-fascist crusade which it took years of anti-communist, after the war, to eradicate from the minds of an unusually united nation. The major influences, for war, in Washington in 1940-41 were not Jewish but British- the city was flooded by publicists, artists, models, seducing the American republic (much inclined to support the Nazis whose ideas were modeled on Jim Crow, eugenic and other US practices) to the anti-fascist cause.
Now the US headed by a Klan President and a Cabinet from the Deep South of ideas, is reverting to type. Holocaust denial, together with anti-semitism/bolshevism, is not unexpected. It is however unwelcome but with Nazism rampant in Israel's genocide it is unsurprising to hear these echoes from the Horst Wessel song.
"The outbreak of war in 1939 was an UNFORTUNATE ACCIDENT caused by mistakes on everyone's part and was not a part of Hitler's plan" ??
Larry Romanoff - @moonofshanghai "Neither of the two world Wars was started (or desired) by Germany, but both at the instigation of a group of European Zionist Jews with the stated intent of the total destruction of Germany. The documentation is overwhelming and the evidence undeniable"
There is no evidence that elitist Jews started either war. However, when they saw the opportunities to influence events they were right their with the bribe money.
France and Russia were the primary instigators of WWI. France wanted Alsace-Lorraine returned and Russia wanted influential control of the Baltic states.
The idea that elitist Jews initiated both world wars is a red-herring and always be...
"Jews financed Churchill and were the main agitators behind Roosevelt in the United States. ..they guided his attempt to make the so-called “Heil Hitler brigade” in London look ludicrous, even though it consisted of far-sighted (and decent) Englishmen"
Churchill strove “step by step” for power, motivated by hatred and pride, and supported by Jewish agitation and money. The plainly stated goal was to turn the Far East into an enormous object of exploitation for the whole of Jewish world plutocracy"
"however there was no known Jewish influence on Churchill prior to ww1"?
"The Jew Medina gave John Churchill 1st Duke Marlborough £6,000 a year for the first tips of victories in France or Flanders" I doubt this insider trading stopped with the 1st
"Rothschild started the stock market panic by hinting that Wellington waa losing the battle of Waterloo to Napoleon. He already knew Wellington had won. Rothschild's grandson later sued in an effort to suppress this story. However, the judge ruled the story was true and threw the case out"
https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html
1660 ~ "Jewish bankers of Amsterdam colluded with William of Orange, making him king of England and setting up a scheme whereby all new money was created by the privately (rothschild) owned bank of England before being then loaned to the King"
"All undertakings in the field of industry are now dependent upon the consent of the banker. The Stock Exchange activities of the banks are becoming more and more the controlling force in every department of economic life. Modern capitalism is the child of money-lending Money-lending contains the root idea of capitalism In money there is no thought of production In money-lending economic activity has no meaning —Werner Sombart in “The Jews and Modern Capitalism.”
Alec... I am not saying that the elitist/Zionist Jews were not influential towards their own ends prior to WWII. They were and there is no escaping that. However, the idea that they actually started both world wars is far-fetched. They simply didn't have the means politically to do so at either time.
I am also aware of Churchill's inter-war history with the Jewish Focus Group that also poured money into his lifestyle and politics. However, there was no known Jewish influence on Churchill prior to WWI. He was already a war-monger then and and as First Sea Lord then, couldn't wait to help push Britain into that conflict. And prior to WWI, most politicians and the populace were against going to war with Imperial Germany.
Bevin:
Let's start with this quote:
"Look at Europe today- every one of its governments is formed by the grandchildren of Hitler's allies".
Ukraine's current government is a curious mix of Nazis and Jewish oligarchs and their front-men. This is quite obvious. "Nazism" is simply brute aggression, it's a political tool. NeoCons are happy to use any tool, including Nazism, to further their goals.
You said that WWII was about protecting Imperialism from Communism. And you asserted that Communism won (e.g. Russia). OK, why then did the West fight Germany, since Germany was fighting Communism? Why was the the West helping Russia and not Germany?
You also said:
"All this stuff about the Jews, which has been current for decades, is de-contextualised nonsense- the Jews didn't even have the minimal political influence they needed to gain refuge from cruel and public persecution in Canada or the United States."
No political influence? What? The major industrialists of mid-century U.S. were routinely decrying the influence of Jewish banks, of control of the U.S. press, of great "infiltration" of the upper reaches of national political policy-making.
Here's the story of Anglo and Jewish-controlled banking here in the U.S. It's from Wikipedia - hardly an "anti-semitic" bastion:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_investment_banking_in_the_United_States
That article chronicles the control of a great deal of U.S. industry and raw materials. "no political influence?". For real? And the timeline of this economic control of the U.S. predates the 2nd WW by several decades.
And you go on to say that the current U.S. President is a Klan president, who is a "deep South of ideas". Are you conflating the presidency and Trump's administration with the retrograde perspectives of some of Trump's followers? When the views of Trump's followers depart from the views of Trump's owners (Zionists), which camp prevails?
How goes that Epstein list? Published yet?
Please tell me of a president, any one will do, that is/has been more favorable to Zionism? One that is even more a product of Jewish influence?
Whatever Israel wants, it gets. U.S. foreign policy is largely based on "what's good for Israel", and it's been like that for decades. When Netanyahu comes to address the Congress, we get 54 standing ovations, and 535 (minus 2 or 3) barking seals.
No Jewish influence, of course.
Your post seems to be a deflection and a denial of massive, systematic, and continuous Jewish influence in economic and political affairs, not just here in the U.S. but UK and Europe as well.
Yes, it is helpful to point out the effect of British influence on U.S. foreign policy during WWII.
But to suggest that there wasn't, and most particularly isn't near-complete Jewish control of U.S. foreign and domestic industrial policy is ... puzzling.
Why do you keep minimizing that fact? I see this theme recur in your posts often.
Well said.
Shortly after that, there was a comment on MoA by a bevin saying this one was fake. I'm not sure which was the real one, if either.
Wow
And -- after all we have learned about choreographed lies and fabrications about heroic and professional Oct. 7 military breakout out of Gaza concentration camp — why is Hamas still described as “terrorist” ???
Hamas behaved professionally and well-disciplined in conducting a successful breakthrough military attack out of decades long open concentration camp.
Panicked and cowardly Israeli army, however, murdered its own citizens while as usual launching a coordinated fabrications about “beheaded babies and rapes” – ALL disproven by now.
Hamas party was democratically elected and represents wishes of Palestinian people.
You've done an immense amount of work cobbling all this together for which you are owed gratitude. But you are, on the whole wrong.
History in this case was not written by the victors, who were the USSR and, lest we forget, an anti-fascist popular alliance which reached deeped into the British, not to mention the various European populations. Remember Field Marshal Slim's answer to Churchill's enquiry as to how the vote, with its long delayed count, of the armed forces had gone? "...none of my chaps voted for you."
No the history of the war was written, in the end, and your article proves it, by the same forces who ruled the imperialist countries before the war, collaborated with or desperately tried to appease Hitler in the war and have united the westeen alliance, once again, into an anti-communist/anti-Russian alliance.
The Second World War was all about the ruling classes' reaction against the Russian Revolution. It was about preserving the empires from anti-imperialist movements, inspired by the Soviet Union (remember China?) and preserving metropolitan capitalism from the threat of socialism.
All this stuff about the Jews, which has been current for decades, is de-contextualised nonsense- the Jews didn't even have the minimal political influence they needed to gain refuge from cruel and public pesecution in Canada or the United States.
Look at Europe today- every one of its governments is formed by the grandchildren of Hitler's allies. The EU bears a remarkable resemblance to the Europe of 1941, rushing its 'volunteers' to participate in Barbarossa, pouring its support into Ukraine, ruled by a fascist movement presrved in aspic for seventy plus years by Hitler's real successor the imperial United States.
As to China, the challenge that it presents to the United States is very much like that the Soviet Union presented to Europe's hegemonic empires- 'communism' not as some social experiment but as a vibrant, efficient alternative to capitalism, an inspiration to imperialism's victims everywhere and, like the Red Army in its day, more than capable of defending itself against the whole world.
Like Walt, I was born in the war in Britain the one and saving anomaly among the imperialist nations in that, for a variety of reasons one of which, the strength of Trade Unionism, Walt, from South Wales will understand, it refused to submit to Hitler's (and Halifax's and Chamberlain's) blandishments and make peace with fascism. It united in an anti-fascist crusade which it took years of anti-communist, after the war, to eradicate from the minds of an unusually united nation. The major influences, for war, in Washington in 1940-41 were not Jewish but British- the city was flooded by publicists, artists, models, seducing the American republic (much inclined to support the Nazis whose ideas were modeled on Jim Crow, eugenic and other US practices) to the anti-fascist cause.
Now the US headed by a Klan President and a Cabinet from the Deep South of ideas, is reverting to type. Holocaust denial, together with anti-semitism/bolshevism, is not unexpected. It is however unwelcome but with Nazism rampant in Israel's genocide it is unsurprising to hear these echoes from the Horst Wessel song.
"The outbreak of war in 1939 was an UNFORTUNATE ACCIDENT caused by mistakes on everyone's part and was not a part of Hitler's plan" ??
Larry Romanoff - @moonofshanghai "Neither of the two world Wars was started (or desired) by Germany, but both at the instigation of a group of European Zionist Jews with the stated intent of the total destruction of Germany. The documentation is overwhelming and the evidence undeniable"
https://www.moonofshanghai.com/2021/05/larry-romanoff-what-part-will-your.html
There is no evidence that elitist Jews started either war. However, when they saw the opportunities to influence events they were right their with the bribe money.
France and Russia were the primary instigators of WWI. France wanted Alsace-Lorraine returned and Russia wanted influential control of the Baltic states.
The idea that elitist Jews initiated both world wars is a red-herring and always be...
"Jews financed Churchill and were the main agitators behind Roosevelt in the United States. ..they guided his attempt to make the so-called “Heil Hitler brigade” in London look ludicrous, even though it consisted of far-sighted (and decent) Englishmen"
https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/schul05.html
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Churchill strove “step by step” for power, motivated by hatred and pride, and supported by Jewish agitation and money. The plainly stated goal was to turn the Far East into an enormous object of exploitation for the whole of Jewish world plutocracy"
"however there was no known Jewish influence on Churchill prior to ww1"?
"The Jew Medina gave John Churchill 1st Duke Marlborough £6,000 a year for the first tips of victories in France or Flanders" I doubt this insider trading stopped with the 1st
https://archive.org/details/the-kingdom-of-shylock
"Rothschild started the stock market panic by hinting that Wellington waa losing the battle of Waterloo to Napoleon. He already knew Wellington had won. Rothschild's grandson later sued in an effort to suppress this story. However, the judge ruled the story was true and threw the case out" https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html
1660 ~ "Jewish bankers of Amsterdam colluded with William of Orange, making him king of England and setting up a scheme whereby all new money was created by the privately (rothschild) owned bank of England before being then loaned to the King"
https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html
"All undertakings in the field of industry are now dependent upon the consent of the banker. The Stock Exchange activities of the banks are becoming more and more the controlling force in every department of economic life. Modern capitalism is the child of money-lending Money-lending contains the root idea of capitalism In money there is no thought of production In money-lending economic activity has no meaning —Werner Sombart in “The Jews and Modern Capitalism.”
https://archive.org/details/the-kingdom-of-shylock
Meyer Rothschild
"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws"
Alec... I am not saying that the elitist/Zionist Jews were not influential towards their own ends prior to WWII. They were and there is no escaping that. However, the idea that they actually started both world wars is far-fetched. They simply didn't have the means politically to do so at either time.
I am also aware of Churchill's inter-war history with the Jewish Focus Group that also poured money into his lifestyle and politics. However, there was no known Jewish influence on Churchill prior to WWI. He was already a war-monger then and and as First Sea Lord then, couldn't wait to help push Britain into that conflict. And prior to WWI, most politicians and the populace were against going to war with Imperial Germany.
Thanks for that.
Churchill was a menace and it is time that were widely known.
Your link is 404.