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David Elliott's avatar

A sad story well told Walt. (I would only add that there is still some motorcycle manufacturing in the UK but it’s rather niche. Maybe this most accurately reflects the current British manufacturing capability?)

China is clearly the future - and even the present. But I wonder if any civilizations are able to avoid the trajectory that starts in vigorous national enterprise and ends in sclerotic elite-controlled authority?

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Diane Fraser-Bell's avatar

Perhaps the others are too trusting.

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JC Denton's avatar

I am on the right of politics, and it's astounding how much of this is mirrored in our analysis (though obviously not all). I feel strongly that as soon as the little people on the right and left realize that their true enemy is not each other but elites of all stripes, their days will be numbered. They are extremely good at dividing us. Their evil is consolidation of all types: government and corporate.

As regards Corbyn, I recognized at the time that he was being shafted. He wasn't an anti-semite at all, he was an anti-zionist. He was also clearly supportive of Brexit, at least in theory. All the pro-Brexit Tories calling for his replacement by a pro-zionism remainer should have been a wake up call to those in the Tory base who were well intentioned that the supposedly pro-independence Tories didn't give a shit about that.

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Little Nell's avatar

A sad story of the decline & fall of a once prosperous and confident country.

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Alec's avatar

From 1950 to 1970, Britain’s share of the world’s manufacturing fell from 25% to 10%. While in the same period Germany grew its share from 7% to 20%.[5] The key difference is that in Germany, monetary policies have consciously been set to favour the growth of industry, whereas Britain has treated industrial interests as subordinate to finance and banking.

https://www.unz.com/article/the-great-british-betrayal/

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Alec's avatar

A perfect example of a successful British manufacturing company ruined in the 1950's

https://www.curbsideclassic.com/automotive-histories/automotive-history-british-deadly-sins-50s-edition-part-3-the-docker-daimlers/

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Walt King's avatar

Thanks for that. Very interesting. Yes I remember the Daimlers, and the scandals of lady Docker, though I was about 8 at the time.

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Alec's avatar

Mee too😉

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Alan Page Memes.'s avatar

The UK has been dismantled on purpose. And it doesn’t effect jewish power in the City of London as the square mile is not part of the UK.

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Jerrys take on China's avatar

A lot of excellent points here Walt, interestingly, I was a police officer when the Lion Intoximeter and the first Alcometer were introduced - amazing little machines that saved us a lot of time, we used to need to get a "divisional surgeon" out for every breath test until the Intoximeter arrived, we loced it - more time to do our jobs and less time waiting around the station for our "charges" to sober up, or get more drunk depending on their level of intake and timing of it!

Another interesting thing is that my dad worked in BP for 55 years, he was a Master Mariner so went by the title of Capt Grey, but he was also involved in energy transition, he spent a couple of years working with the Natinoal Coal Board in Grosvenor Place, where I used to catch up with him from time to time for a lunch before or after my shift at Buickingham Palace, where I was seconded for a while. He also, with another energy transition project spent a couple of years working in Rio de Janeiro but Im not sure of the details of that, I can only assume converting sugar into biofuel, it was a long time ago and he's gone now, so no one to ask.

Jerry

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Walt King's avatar

Thanks. Quite a bit of crossover here.

After I was thrown out of Swansea University for doing no work I got back into higher education courtesy of BP, they paid for my degree during which I spent four six month periods at the research centre at Sunbury. That appointment was considerably eased by the Training Officer there who was my girl friend's brother in law. Sometimes nepotism is essential. I rewarded them by resigning at the end to do a PhD.

One memorable moment was in October 1965 when a bunch of suits came into the Gas Analysis lab with a sample and told me to run it. I told them it was 99% methane. They cheered and went out. The next day I learned that it was the first sample from the new North Sea Gas field.

At Lion I was their Senior Research Chemist from 1980 to 1984. Their Alcolmeters used fuel cell sensors but they didn't understand them, it had been my PhD subject. In 1983, you will remember this, I was put in charge of the testing, calibration and signing off of 628 Intoximeter 3000s they made under licence, evidential breathalysers.. I had considerable QC problems with what they were giving me, I resigned at the end of the process. What sensors they make now are essentially what I left them with.

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Jerrys take on China's avatar

You're right, a lot of crossovers - I do remember the intoximeter being "tested" in court, I was working in Essex, at Basildon police station by then, I believe we were on of the test beds for it - perhaps you even came into the station and we walked past each other - I was the good looking one!!!

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Hua Bin's avatar

thatcher ruined social democracy and financialized the economy completely. of course she also spawned Blair and coopted labor party. Jeremy Corbyn was destroyed by Murdoch's trash sheets and you lost the one decent politician in the country.

but the root problem is the city of london, the parasite that has subsumed the host now. they don't need an industrial economy as they feed on money laundering and stolen wealth, none of which came from industry. what's left of Britain is a shell to promote the city's interest and cover its track.

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Chubbs's avatar

Ironically Corbyn getting stopped on the doorstep of power was probably the best case scenario rather than getting into power and his premiership being sabotaged (while discrediting the reforms he would pursue). As much as this pains me to say :(

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Paul Harald's avatar

"the economy is collapsing, poverty increasing as the standard of living is declining, one in which the priorities of its government are serving its American master, getting involved on the wrong side of conflicts around the world rather than serving the needs of its people, and arresting citizens who do no more than disagree with the policies it pursues."

Great writing- important topic but one not so small correction: not serving its American Master- but the masters of America. You will find many of them in the City of London

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John P Malynowsky's avatar

Well said and true!

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Walt King's avatar

Thanks for your comment, I get your drift. I didn’t want to divert in that direction at the time but I think you’ll find next week’s article relevant.

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St Ewart's avatar

1st world war coincided with Britain's peak coal event. Second World War coincided with oil based mechanisation and Germany’s shortages of oil. All about fossil fuel energy and access to it. Britain can’t do steel anymore, no cheap coal. North Sea is a trickle. Like India all we have is people and not much else. So strict hierarchies like you’ve never seen and masses of service based starvation rate jobs. Unless you can find some more cheap accessible fossil fuels to drive production again. Sad , we burnt it first. Then invited the world in to benefit from the leftover scraps / welfare state and skimming from the second British empire / Eurodollar exchange system . Look that up if you haven’t already.

No, solar panels won’t help you in the slightest.

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Peter Grafström's avatar

Beginning in the 16th century Britain inherited the role of becoming the latest in a series of followers of an ancient oligarchic mindset and that minset has for over a millenium been characterised by its struggle against rational science. Not because the oligarchy doesnt want to posess a strong military arm.

But because knowledge is contagious.

The rivals may learn so better support the irrational side of peoples minds.

A lot of what has been going on under the heading of religion in many of ist shapes and forms has been skewed by operators representing said oligarchic mindset.

The pattern is that cults rather than rational models of society have been nurtured.

Winning the hearts and minds isnt just about preparing for particular conflicts.

More than that it is about spreading underdevelopment and internal conflicts everywhere.

The mindset of the oligarchy is that of someone who already is very wealthy but may lose it should the rivals catch up.

This is a great complication because the oligarchy needs some skills among their cadres but doesnt want foreign nations to be able to copy anything that works.

And there is in addition the rivalry from other productive sectors like those the artcle brings up in Corbyn's proposals.

The oligarchy fears rivals everywhere

It fears the well-educated middle class everywhere including at home.

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

Andrei Martyanov moved to the USA from Russia in the desperate 90's. He was brought up in Baku. He was a Soviet naval officer. He has a good video about the UK's delusions that is to be found here.

𝗔𝗹𝗲𝘅𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗿 𝗡𝗲𝘃𝘀𝗸𝘆'𝘀 𝗥𝗲𝗱 𝗟𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm4HnJg4wy8

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

𝘁𝗼 𝗱𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗹𝗼𝗽 𝗮 𝗺𝗮𝗿𝗸𝗲𝘁𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗳𝘂𝗲𝗹 𝗰𝗲𝗹𝗹 𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹 𝗲𝗻𝗲𝗿𝗴𝘆 𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲

As a teenager, I was fascinated by batteries and fuel cells. My father had the entire collection of the "Kirk-Othmer Encyclopedia of Chemical Technology". It was around 1967.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/book/10.1002/0471238961

The experts were unanimous that fuel cells would take over the world in a few years. Well, not much has happened since.

As for batteries, the batteries of today are not that much better than those of 100 years ago. The only real nudge forward was the Lithium battery (various types). The problem is with the Periodic Table of Elements - or so it seems to me.

IMHO, the EV craze is going to peter out with a whimper. China has taken the wrong path. But the same is true for most wind turbines and PV farms. I got the list below from my PC.

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Here are the key developments:

Ford Motor Company: Ford has paused its plans for a $3.5 billion EV plant in Michigan and postponed $12 billion in EV investments. The company is shifting focus back to producing gas-powered vehicles due to rising costs and uncertain consumer demand for EVs

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General Motors (GM): GM has stopped selling its Chevy Blazer EV due to technical issues related to charging and software. Additionally, the company has canceled plans for a more affordable EV model priced around $30,000

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Volvo: Volvo has abandoned its goal of producing only electric vehicles by 2030, stating that it will now include hybrid models in its lineup. This shift is attributed to declining demand for EVs in key markets and challenges related to trade tariffs on EVs from China

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Mercedes-Benz: Mercedes has revised its electrification strategy, indicating that only up to 50% of its sales will be electrified vehicles by 2030, a significant reduction from previous targets. The company is also increasing its focus on combustion engine vehicles

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J Huizinga's avatar

A long-winded way of ignoring critical issues…”today’s batteries aren’t much better than those of 100 years ago”….immediately disqualifies you as a serious thinker.

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

In theory, a 20kg car battery can be replaced by a 4kg lithium-ion battery. That is a 16kg weight saving. This saves fuel and improves acceleration and braking. Over the lifetime of a car, that should be a considerable saving.

In reality, the lithium-ion battery is a danger to the car and it needs to be frequently replaced at great cost. Car manufacturers are not stupid.

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Walt King's avatar

Roger takes an opposite view. Have a look at his latest piece, he thinks the US and European industries are finished.

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

My experiences bear some superficial similarities.

In 1971, I graduated in civil engineering from Imperial College. I quickly realised it was a dead-end career in the UK. I went back to college and got a masters in Operations Research. I worked for what was the biggest industry in London at the time - Lucas/CAV. They made fuel injection pumps and had customers worldwide. The only real competitor was German Bosch. Their factory in Acton is now all housing.

I left the UK in 1975. I went to Iran as I had a Persian girlfriend. I cannot stand Anglo women.

After the Revolution, I lived and worked in a large number of countries - Saudi Arabia, France, UK, Germany, Japan, Philippines, Norway, Australia. I even was in Lagos for 10 days. I had a son with a Norwegian lady who didn't want to marry - he is now a doctor. I had two daughters with a Russian wife. They are now in Australia.

I am currently near the Red Sea in Egypt. I planning a relationship with a Russian/Ukrainian lady. On dating websites, I get lots of attention from Chinese ladies in their 20's. I guess they know what Chinese men are like at their young age. But I have no intention to live in China. Their culture is too alien for me. And there is the language problem. I no longer like big cities.

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Don Midwest's avatar

Who is interested in migrating to Russia?

I am posting in response to Bevin's excellent comment at the beginning of the comments.

Given ups and downs of countries, one could not have predicted where Russia is today. But as a thought experiment follow up on Bevin's comment I offer another substack.

This substack was tweeted by Pepe Escobar so I checked it out. It is a very favorable view of Russia but from what I have learned in the last couple of years, much of it from Karl Sanchez's substack, I believe what is said.

*** from the substack ***

"What I found interesting in the conversations is that very few people considered, or had much inkling of the subject of this article - the level of culture, learning, IQ, raw brainpower, professional competence, and crucially, their history. So much else which makes a country a smart choice to move to derives from this - economic prospects, health of the environment - food, water, air, etc., personal relationships, military strength, educational opportunities and their quality, cultural amenities, quality of housing and infrastructure, etc.

Once you’ve been in contact with many cultures and peoples you can evaluate them comparatively. There are in fact very few countries, languages and civilizations which really count as heavy hitters in science, literature, theology, arts, culture, etc. I would list them as follows: English speaking world (in which I include India/Pakistan), German world, Russian world, China, ASEAN, the Arab world, Japan, and Iran. These are the civilizational poles with far greater intellectual heft today, not because smaller countries aren’t often very admirable. It often just comes down to accidents of history, geography, race, population, resource wealth, and peculiarities of culture. Within these 8, there are 4 titans: the English speaking world, German world, Russian world, and China. France, Spain, and Italy are still very important, but more for what was than what is today."

https://arkrussia.substack.com/p/russia-beats-out-other-countries

"Russia beats out other countries one could migrate to - my reasons.

Russia's human capital makes it a no-brainer (for me).

Charles Bausman Sep 12, 2024"

*** some background on the author ***

"I’ve led a very international life, from growing up in the family of a foreign correspondent, to working as a journalist and businessman outside the US, and I’ve seen a great deal of the world and gotten to know various cultures and 4 foreign languages quite well, spending considerable time in Europe, Latin America, India, and Russia in addition to my native US. From what I’ve seen of the world, Russia is in the champions league in terms of learning, culture, and raw brainpower. Where countries rank in these is not just a matter of what has been happening for the last few decades, it is often cumulative in nature - the result of centuries building these towering civilizations and traditions, and here, Russia’s legacy is breathtaking."

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Walt King's avatar

Thank you for your comment. I would agree that Russia would be a good choice to resettle. If I were starting again with a completely free hand it would be my target, but my recent history has forced my hand and it has to be China. Don’t get me wrong, I am perfectly happy with that.

I do believe that there must be a mounting inclination among dissenters in the west that it is essential now to get out. If you follow Craig Murray’s blog, you may have noticed that I have made several offers to help him, to no avail. He has been imprisoned, interrogated, now recently says he is prepared to go to jail again for his beliefs, and is now sheltering in Greece again. What’s the point? He has a wife and family.

I think I will run a piece on Getting Out and perhaps spark a discussion here.

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mary-lou's avatar

Unz' platform brought me at your ss and I find myself reading more of your articles, which I think are very interesting. and informative. and well-written. having lived and worked in Indonesia for several years, your observations about Chinese culture are very recognisable. perhaps surprisingly so (or not? long shared history there). while I'm not well-versed in the "real sciences", in university we did learn how to do research and "to question everything". since 2016 I've been following Craig Murray's work and I'm in awe about his menadering activities, that have led him to report from Beirut. and my heart cries :-(( so just for mentioning him here I thank you (and subb'd). be well

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